JONATHAN BANKS: And why do you think he has that rage inside of him?
ODENKIRK: Because he’s a normal guy.
BANKS: He’s a normal guy who just happens to deal in crystal meth and kill people. But he’s a normal guy.
BANKS: I don’t think he loves Jesse at all. You’re talking about Walt?
PAUL: You don’t think Walt cares for Jesse?
BANKS: I don’t think Walt cares for anybody.
ODENKIRK: I think he looks to Jesse as a son.
PAUL: He has Jesse in the palm of his hand and he knows how to control him.
BANKS: To control him. That’s hardly love.
Interviewer: Do you think Walt’s manipulation of people is the way he shows his love?
BANKS: I love the way you’ve phrased that question. Is his manipulation, his way of showing love? Did I misquote you? His manipulation shows his love? What kind of broken ass home did you come from?
BANKS: I will tell you this – because I’m old enough to be everybody’s father here. Everybody. And I know specifically of parents who would go – you would be hit by a car, lying on the side of the road and they would come over and go ‘Oh my god. Son, are you okay?’ And in the same breath – ‘Could somebody take care of this. I gotta go.’ It ain’t love. They may tell themselves it’s love. But it ain’t love.
Interviewer: So does Walt love anybody then?
PAUL: He definitely loves himself.
BANKS: A sociopath feels no guilt in their actions and what they do.
ODENKIRK: But do you think he’s becoming a sociopath?
BANKS: No – I think he’s been a sociopath since the time in the gym when he justifies the airplane crash – with ‘Well there have been worse crashes. More people have died.’ That is the classic sociopath.